Parallel (to the Line) Hip Motion (Weight Shift) With Delayed Turn
Originally Posted by grantc79
I am confused about what type of hip action a Hitter should have.
Firstly, I have been told on this board to not slide the hips but rather to turn them. Basically use a standard hip turn.
Then I came across a post by Yoda today that seems to suggest otherwise. He seems to be saying there is a definite slide down the delivery line.
The Standard Hip Turn includes a Weight Shift, and this can be accomplished only with a Hip Slide.
I recommend focusing on the Weight Shifts -- to the Right Foot and then to the Left Foot -- and not on the Hip Motion. Why? Because focusing on sliding makes it way too easy to get into an exaggerated 'pushing out' of the Hips, first to the right and then to the left. Exactly what is being illustrated, by the way, in the Slide Hip Turn photos.
The 3rd edition offered this solution to the Hip Turn/Slide conundrum:
Sharp Turn.
Slide. [My note: Parallel to the Square Plane Line and with the Hips still Turned.]
Swing!
Take Hogan's advice on the Downstroke Hip Turn in Five Lessons: "There must be enough lateral motion to move the weight to the left foot."
The Hitter using as the Delivery Line the Baseline of the Inclined Plane (the true Geometric Plane Line per 2-J-3) senses the Hip Motion as parallel to this Square Plane Line. However, Hitters using the Angle of Approach procedure (beyond -- way beyond -- the scope of this post) would sense the Hip Motion as parallel to that "Inside-Out" Line.
However, Hitters using the Angle of Approach procedure (beyond -- way beyond -- the scope of this post) would sense the Hip Motion as parallel to that "Inside-Out" Line.
The 3rd edition offered this solution to the Hip Turn/Slide conundrum:
Sharp Turn.
Slide. [My note: Parallel to the Square Plane Line and with the Hips still Turned.]
Swing!
Yoda , if you dont mind.
"Sharp Turn, Slide, Swing". Thats what I feel, I think. But some would say its "Sharp Turn, Slide , Turn the Hips Hard". And so my question is ............given the quote from the 3rd above, does the Hip Slide represent the Hips portion of the 6-M-1 Downswing Sequence? Or does it require a "ground up" sequential turning of the Hips?
Me , I feel like the Hips and Shoulders sort of go together, but ..........you know that already. Like a hockey slap shot as you diagnosed.
Would it be fair to say that between the weight shift to the left, the hips turning, and the shoulder drive movements create enough hip slide so that you do not need to worry about a conscious slide?
Yesterday I had my best ball striking round in quite some time and was literally playing golf in straight lines around the course.
I felt absolutely no hip slide at all with my motion. From top my only swing thought was slow and steady right arm drive and with the same tempo for a hip turn.
My finish was always wonderfully balanced which means I had to be getting onto my left side, but not consciously doing so.
Learn to trace the Plane Line with the #3 PP and a Right Forearm Flying Wedge. Do 50 Right Forearm Wedge Strokes per day (no Left Arm). Tie the Wrist and Forearm in a cast if you must or bend a spoon and wrap it in tape so that your right wrist stays bent.
It will take awhile to learn. A few weeks, a month, I can't put a time on it. Once you learn this, you won't have Pivot questions anymore.
I know that that's a crappy argument. But until that Right Forearm Flying Wedge can move from a cocked/bent right elbow to a straight right elbow.....
Basic Motion, chip shots, Right Arm Only, intact Right Arm Flying Wedge, Tracing the Plane Line, from bent Elbow to Straight Elbow. The Right Hand doesn't pass the navel even when the right arm is straight.
Once you can do that, then you can pour on the pivot as hard as you can because the Pivot affects the speed of the right arm straightening.
I'm going to get a lot of criticism for what I just said.