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Old 08-18-2010, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by grantc79 View Post
A swinger uses his entire body to create power to transfer to the ball.

A hitter simply positions his body in such a way to provide a stable base to drive the right arm down the plane line.
Grantc,

I'm afraid this is a myth. And one that may be very counter productive for a lot of golfers trying to hit the ball. If this were true you should be able to hit the long ball without even moving the right shoulder. That is never going to happen.

All great hitters also have a good pivot motion. For some it is very different from a good swinger's pivot. For others it is very similar. They pull from the left side as well. Take a look at Yoda hitting and swinging. The part from feet to shoulders is basically inseparable!
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Old 08-19-2010, 03:33 PM
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Grantc,

I'm afraid this is a myth. And one that may be very counter productive for a lot of golfers trying to hit the ball. If this were true you should be able to hit the long ball without even moving the right shoulder. That is never going to happen.

All great hitters also have a good pivot motion. For some it is very different from a good swinger's pivot. For others it is very similar. They pull from the left side as well. Take a look at Yoda hitting and swinging. The part from feet to shoulders is basically inseparable!
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Old 08-20-2010, 04:31 AM
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Hitting is just a new type of experience after swinging for so many years.
At first I had difficulty allowing my right side to "hit " the ball. Felt unnatural because I did it with my left side so long.
But after a few pure solid contact, I wonder "why didn't i?"

Some good tips are to keep the clubface "looking" at the ball during the backswing with the right arm. Drive the right arm in a thrusting action.
Imagine a bicycle wheel in front of your body,
In hitting I would be using the right hand to hold on of the wire spokes and driving the wheel down.
In a swinging motion I would grab the rubber end of the tire with my right hand and throwing the wheel around.
same result different way of doing it.

I also found that I had to adjust my ball position a bit more out than usual. I think because I wasn't use to the OUTWARD component. In swinging I was aiming FORWARD, DOWN and IN and had a FADE . Now it's FORWARD, DOWN and OUT and a natural DRAW.

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Old 08-20-2010, 11:29 AM
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Just a couple of random Friday morning thoughts.

I think a lot more people start off as hitters rather than swingers, despite the fact that many of the tour are swingers. I think popular instruction takes talented people and guides them to a swinging pattern. Naturally I think many people start off with right arm power to hit the ball rather than a left shoulder arm tug. I know unless I concentrate on pulling with the left arm and shoulder to pull the arrow out of the quiver I never have that feel, its very much of the right arm making the motion.

Question for anyone who has messed with both, I have found that I actually have better alignments hitting rather than swinging but when I try to take it to the course it does not hold up. Anyone have this happen as well?
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Old 08-20-2010, 02:35 PM
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For me there a constant struggle between centripetal force( controlled primarly by ACC #4) and centrifugal force( controlled primarly by ACC#1).
These two forces can either work well together or mess up you up.
One force( the swinger in me) wants to swing left. you guess it the centripetal force.
The other (the hitter in me) want to hit right, you guess it the centrifugal force.

Now there has to be one master chef and one sous cook in the kitchen, so once you know how to delegate the task.......there are countless ways in TGM terms to swing or hit.

Too much centripetal force , a fade becomes a slice because it overpowers my centrifugal force.
Too much centrifugal force and overpowers the centripetal force then the draw becomes a hook.

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Old 08-25-2010, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by gmbtempe View Post
Just a couple of random Friday morning thoughts.

I think a lot more people start off as hitters rather than swingers, despite the fact that many of the tour are swingers. I think popular instruction takes talented people and guides them to a swinging pattern. Naturally I think many people start off with right arm power to hit the ball rather than a left shoulder arm tug. I know unless I concentrate on pulling with the left arm and shoulder to pull the arrow out of the quiver I never have that feel, its very much of the right arm making the motion.

Question for anyone who has messed with both, I have found that I actually have better alignments hitting rather than swinging but when I try to take it to the course it does not hold up. Anyone have this happen as well?

I try to do my dowel work in my living room, check the mirror really go in slow motion. Tracing, looking, feeling the pressure build in #1 and maintained in #3.

Once I hit the course I just concentrate on keeping my head as steady as possible, trace w/ #3, and direct the thrust through #1 at my aiming point. Depending on the club driver its basically at the ball irons in front...but you knew that already

program the computer, and then just let it go only focusing on 3 thoughts at a time:

1) STEADY HEAD! (always #1!)
2) trace the plane line (at least attempt to get close to it
3)drive w/ PP #1, as I "sense" #3

These are interchangeable w/ the following....but I try to use a max of 3 before any swing.

4) hula,hula (if Im not pivoting correctly)
5) aiming point (in front for irons at the ball for driver)
6) cross line delivery
7) SLOW DOWN
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9) both arms straight on f.t.
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:13 PM
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Hi Ty. What are you working on and what are you experiencing? What videos or DVD's or exercises are you using for a template of hitting?
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Old 08-21-2010, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BerntR View Post
Grantc,

I'm afraid this is a myth. And one that may be very counter productive for a lot of golfers trying to hit the ball. If this were true you should be able to hit the long ball without even moving the right shoulder. That is never going to happen.

All great hitters also have a good pivot motion. For some it is very different from a good swinger's pivot. For others it is very similar. They pull from the left side as well. Take a look at Yoda hitting and swinging. The part from feet to shoulders is basically inseparable!
I don't disagree but that said if someone were learning to hit I personally would go for a different feel than swinging.

When I swing I felt like my entire body was flexing, coiling, sliding, twisting, etc to create power.

When I hit the feel I go for is literally bring the shoulder down towards the ball then drive the right arm down through the ball.

Sure the body moves and reacts but when I hit I feel as if the body isn't creating motion it is responding to motion.

The body is an effect not a cause if you will.



Now scientifically that might not be exactly right per se, but also it isn't a bad thought process when making the transition from swinging to hitting.
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